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ARGH OMG I HATE WAITING.

*deep breath*

Okay, I figured it would be something like "12 kids in exchange for millions of lives", so I wasn't surprised by the revelation. Kids for a cure for the flu, yay. Almost anticlimactic, really, until we get the further revelations of what was done with them. Nice. One more thing for Jack to angst about.

What I want to know is why just almost being taken by aliens gave Clem super smell and all those strange tics. There's more to this than just narrowly escaping, surely.

Y'know, it's one thing for the PM to pass the ball to a civil servant, but quite another for a hapless camera man to be thrown to the aliens. The helmet may mean he's a soldier who volunteered for the job, but still. I'm surprised he survived, considering he was put into a red hazmat suit.

The ultimatum doesn't really make sense, though. If the 456 wipe out humanity, they still don't get what they came for. And if they take the 10% and kill everyone else, it's not like they'd have a backup stock or whatever. Are they calling humanity's bluff? Do they just need a small number and then that's it, no more needed ever? What the hell are the kids for, anyway?

It's a sad commentary on the world that failed asylum seekers would be among the first on a list of who to give up to a hostile alien race. And calling them "units". That's cold.

Plus, if you're gonna haggle, you don't do it by making your first offer your final one. Dumbasses.

And of course there's the one guy arguing for it as a solution against global overpopulation. Nice. Of course it's good if you just spin it the right way, and if it's rich white men making the decisions on which "undesirables" to get rid of. It's nice that at least one person on the committee finally said the word "random", but then no one wants their own kids eligible. Hearing them go on about "oh, we're important, so we couldn't possibly do our Very Important Jobs if we were grieving over our personal losses" made me rather sick to my stomach. Possibly b/c it's all too plausible. And thanks so much, Rusty, for having the only woman on the committee (with a speaking role, anyway, the other black lady never got a line or even a close-up; guess they figured Lois was enough of a female minority presence in the room) be the one to say "hey, let's get rid of all the poor kids! They'll only grow up to be on welfare or in prison anyway".

I was buying how fast they figured out what the numbers meant until the news lady was all "but we don't know why". The media obviously don't know about the offer, so why the hell would they make that leap? I'm sure most countries have no idea how many pre-pubescent children there are at any given time; not only do we not have current censuses everywhere, but puberty isn't something that happens to all children at the same time, so they would never have such specific information. Oh, lord, I'll just handwave it, god...

If Frobisher is the one who came up with the "let's pretend it's an inoculation to stop the unison talking, then blame the aliens when all the kids disappear" stuff...damn. That's cold and calculating.

I really love Lois at this point. I love that when it came time to start their plan, she raised her hand first. ♥

Also love Jack and Ianto going in armed to the teeth, Ianto of course wearing dress pants and a silk waistcoat. And of COURSE they're going to bicker a little bit even while they face an alien threat. ♥

And of course it all backfires spectacularly.

I will admit to panicking rather a lot when they finally realized the poison gas wasn't just a bluff and Ianto collapsed. Please please please don't kill him off. Not after that horrible line from Jack in the first ep about dying like a dog and everything. Please don't. He's listed on IMDB as being in part five, so he can't die.

And Clem is a "remnant" who has been "disconnected". WTF?

I KNEW the translator guy would survive. He means something here, I just know it. Though OMG JACK WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK OF GETTING A SUIT OR SOMETHING, TOO. DON'T JUST SIT THERE WHILE IANTO DIES, DAMN IT. NOT TO MENTION HEY, TELL HIM YOU LOVE HIM IN RETURN, YOU JERKHOLE.

Seriously, I couldn't even cry during all that. I'm hoping too hard for the reset button, even though I usually hate that.

Oh dear, waiting until tomorrow is going to be a bitch.

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Date: 2009-07-10 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greensilver.livejournal.com
I cried enough for both of us, so it evens out. *g*

NOT TO MENTION HEY, TELL HIM YOU LOVE HIM IN RETURN, YOU JERKHOLE.

YES. GOD.

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Date: 2009-07-10 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
I was too busy whimpering "nonononononono!" to cry. It felt very numb.

I was SO SURE Jack would tell him he loved him back. Sure, the "I'll never forget you" stuff was nice, but c'mon. Ianto made that leap, surely Jack could too. :(

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Date: 2009-07-10 01:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deborak
lol. If this plot happened in the U.S., there would be plenty of cult-y Americans wanting to go with the aliens, or happy to give their children away. The script would only run about half an hour.

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Date: 2009-07-10 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
Heh. I'd actually be amused to see a short story about that.

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Date: 2009-07-10 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wishfulaces.livejournal.com
OMFG imdb better be right. It was bad enough with Tosh and Owen, okay? NOT IANTO TOO.

It does not surprise me that Jack could not say "I love you" back, actually. The "Don't" made more sense from him.

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Date: 2009-07-10 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
*still in denial*

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Date: 2009-07-10 03:43 am (UTC)
ext_1888: Crichton looking thoughtful and a little awed. (Default)
From: [identity profile] wemblee.livejournal.com
I'm surprised he survived, considering he was put into a red hazmat suit.

Ha, nice catch! I didn't even think about that. Also, I love the word "jerkhole."

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Date: 2009-07-10 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
I was typing in a sort of free emotion thing and "jerkhole" was what came out. *sigh* Every other night I've been excited after the show, and tonight is just all depressing.

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Date: 2009-07-10 05:24 am (UTC)

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Date: 2009-07-10 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windrose.livejournal.com
They can't have Ianto. Nope. They can't. I refuse. It's too ... Whedonesque, and if that's the road they take, then I will not be watching Torchwood again.

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Date: 2009-07-10 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
*nod* There's a reason I am not a Whedon fan. And if they keep killing off all the members of Torchwood, there won't be a show left.

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Date: 2009-07-10 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windrose.livejournal.com
This is exactly the kind of thing that made me give up on Whedon. ETA: Though, honestly, after Tosh, Owen and Donna, I don't know why I expect RTD to be any different. Augh!
Edited Date: 2009-07-10 04:27 am (UTC)

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Date: 2009-07-10 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
Donna was almost a deal-breaker for me with the parent show. I adored her and the way we lost her was just cruel. And Tosh, oh, Tosh. I didn't really care for Owen, but Tosh was so great.

After a while, killing off so many cast members is no longer new and clever and shocking. It got predictable with Whedon, and now it's getting predictable with Rusty.

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Date: 2009-07-10 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] entangled-now.livejournal.com
I love that when it came time to start their plan, she raised her hand first.

That was so utterly adorable :)

Also love Jack and Ianto going in armed to the teeth, Ianto of course wearing dress pants and a silk waistcoat.

Ianto is class! I really, really don't want him to be dead for real.

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