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Castalia ([personal profile] castalia) wrote2004-03-30 10:16 pm

Starsky and Hutch rant, er, review.

Thanks to all of you for your support the past few days. *hugs friendslist to bits*

For distraction purposes, here's that review of the new Starsky and Hutch movie I promised...



If my post the other day wasn't indication enough, I really, really didn't like this movie. It physically pained me. I'll admit I wasn't expected it to be good, but I did hold out one last bit of hope that maybe, just maybe, they'd at least harbor some respect for the source and make a fun little spoof. Too bad that hope was knocked down, stomped on, and run over by a hyped-up Torino for good measure.

[livejournal.com profile] cimmerianwillow has already written up her review which sums up my feelings pretty well. I'm going to take a page from her book and start with the good, the few, the things-I-could-watch-without-wanting-to-cry.

So, Snoop Dog as Huggy Bear. Believe it or not, this was of the good. I was not expecting to like him at all, but he was kinda cool. They didn't make him a pimp (which I was afraid of, after seeing the articles and previews), but rather a sort of "protector of his neighborhood" and Hutch's informant. He also got the cool props, including an iguana, a cane with a gold fist on top, and a fur coat of many colors.

Vince Vaughn, the villian. He was actually pretty funny, in a movie that was sadly lacking in good humor moments.

The little details were nice. Things like hearing "Zebra 3", seeing them wear replicas of clothing worn in the series, their guns, stuff like that.

The very best part of the movie was David Soul and Paul Michael Glaser's cameo. Really, that five minutes was worth sitting through the rest of the crap. They just sparkled on screen, giving the impression of an old married couple who've been together for decades. Wonderful.

Now for the bad. Um, the rest of the movie, really. Worst, IMO, was the characterization. Sometimes I could see that someone (usually Stiller) had done his homework and tried to be true to the original character. Stiller had several of Glaser's mannerisms down pat (although he exaggerated some to an embarrassing extent). But mostly? I didn't recognize the boys at all. Starsky was made into a freakishly by-the-book cop with OCD with issues about his dead mother (who was made into a cop, for some reason).

Hutch? Oh my poor dearest Hutch...he was unrecognizable. Oh, he had the hair, and the clothes, and the badge, but he wasn't Hutch. In his introduction, we see him robbing. a freaking. bookie. His philosophy in life? "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Hutch. The original White Knight. Then it gets better - his next move is to rob a dead corpse of the cash in his wallet. I've never disliked Owen Wilson so much. He made Hutch dishonest, stupid, irresponsible, and a slob.

This movie is yet another testament to the fact that Owen Wilson cannot act. He gets up there and speaks the lines as himself. They even make a joke about it in the movie, "I don't do voices or characters." Well, duh. And you know what? That technique, or lack thereof, sucks.

I wasn't very happy with the relationship b/w the boys, either. Instead of sticking to canon, in which they go through the Academy together and have been partners for years, the movie sets it up so they can meet for the first time. They're partnered against their wishes, and spend the first 30 minutes or so disliking each other. When they do manage to bond, it's always turned into a big joke, something to be laughed at. Touching and declarations are immediately followed by Random Assertions of Heterosexuality, including a threesome involving Hutch which made me ill.

I missed the pet names and recurring jokes from the series. No "Blintz" or "Gordo" or "Blondie", no "Me 'n Thee", and even Hutch's delapidated car was replaced by an ugly truck w/camper thing.

There's a moment towards the end in which Hutch is held hostage b/w Starsky's gun and the villian. Normally, you'd expect this to be a moment of pure partner trust, but they even managed to screw that up. Starsky is confident he can make the shot, but Hutch displays a complete lack of trust and won't let him shoot. In the end, Starsky shoots anyway, misses *completely*, and shoots Dobey instead. Hutch's big moment of partner support is to cover for him and say the villian shot Dobey. I was unimpressed.

As far as the gay jokes, which I was expecting, they weren't at all funny. In fact, I was more than a little offended. In this movie, homosexuality = freakish and sick. There's a scene in a jail involving a gay inmate that is just terrible. Dobey (spelled "Doby" in the movie for some unknown reason) also comes off as highly homophobic, at one point screaming "Why are you touching him?!" when Hutch feels Starsky's hair. Considering it was just an argument about whether or not his hair was natural or a perm, the captain's reaction seemed way over the top.

The plot was forgettable, really. Many of the scenes felt like they lasted forever, to the point where I kept thinking "when is this bit going to *end*?". Jokes fell flat, I felt like they were mocking the 70s rather than spoofing, maturity went out the window, and I never felt like they truly respected the original show at all. They really forgot what the original was all about: "two guys who loved each other more than anything else in the world and who would always be there for each other, no matter what their relationship was, platonic or otherwise.", to quote Willow.

So, yeah, not worth the price of admission. I'd pay the matinee price just to see the last five minutes, but bring a numbing agent if you want to sit through the rest.

[identity profile] viola-cesario.livejournal.com 2004-03-30 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs you to bits* :D

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-03-30 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I just adore all of you. Thanks so much!

[identity profile] cimmerianwillow.livejournal.com 2004-03-31 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
They even make a joke about it in the movie, "I don't do voices or characters." Well, duh. And you know what? That technique, or lack thereof, sucks.

*totally nods in agreement* No way is he gonna have a long shelf life in Hollywood. He's pretty much already been type cast, and unless he unexpectedly lands some serious, meaty role in which he completely shocks everyone by actually *acting* I'd say his days are numbered.

In the end, Starsky shoots anyway, misses *completely*, and shoots Dobey instead.

*snort* Can't say that I was entirely displeased at seeing Dobey shot (I don't understand the spelling either - was it intentional I wonder, or were they *that* stupid?) but that whole scene, as you said, just totally underscored the whole "We completely don't have any faith in each other!" thing.

Jokes fell flat, I felt like they were mocking the 70s rather than spoofing, maturity went out the window, and I never felt like they truly respected the original show at all.

*nods more* The biggest problem with this movie was that it had no heart. They took a series that, bottom line, was all about love and trust, and managed to suck out just about every ounce of that and make one of the greatest buddy pairings of all time not only unremarkable, but even laughable.

Starksy AND Hutch. The show wasn't about a car, it wasn't about fighting crime, IT WASN'T ABOUT THE 70s. Yeah, the 70s is a great decade to retro back to and spoof, but you morons obviously can't see the forest for the trees.

*shoots stupid film*

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-04-01 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you're right about Wilson's shelf life. I liked him in Shanghai Noon, but now I'm rather sick of him.

the whole "We completely don't have any faith in each other!" thing.

I hate that. It's just...wrong. ITA with what you said about the movie lacking heart. They made it about everything but what it should've been about. *sigh*

And how are *you* doing? You've been rather quiet this week.

[identity profile] cimmerianwillow.livejournal.com 2004-04-02 01:16 am (UTC)(link)

Oh, I'm good. In a rather vexing artistic slump, which tends to disquiet me, lol, but hopefully that will pass soon. Been working out final details of trip and booking and shopping, though still have some shopping to do. If you wanna run around and play this weekend, I'm free. :)

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-04-02 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw *sends inspiration vibes your way* I hope all the details of your trip work out ok. I'd love to hang out, but I'm not sure when. Annoyingly enough, what I thought was going to be a lunch thing to discuss the play has turned into dinner at 5. That kinda throws a wrench into possible Saturday plans. Sunday is out, b/c of Evensong that night.

If you want to get together for a quick lunch tomorrow, I could do that. Will you be up and awake in time?

[identity profile] cimmerianwillow.livejournal.com 2004-04-02 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I'll be around, as I plan on going by the library tomorrow morning to research annoyingly obscure greatly celebrated island of Menorca.

A lunch thingy actually works best for me too I think. You wanna get together around noonish? :)

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-04-02 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, cool! Noon should be just fine. I'll give you a call before I come over.

[identity profile] cimmerianwillow.livejournal.com 2004-04-02 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Okey-dokey!
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So Glad

[identity profile] kimberlyfdr.livejournal.com 2004-03-31 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who did not like this movie.

So, Snoop Dog as Huggy Bear. Believe it or not, this was of the good.

I came into the movie liking Snoop and while he didn't try to be Huggy, he was a cool character that I could like.

The very best part of the movie was David Soul and Paul Michael Glaser's cameo. Really, that five minutes was worth sitting through the rest of the crap. They just sparkled on screen, giving the impression of an old married couple who've been together for decades. Wonderful.

YES! That's what I said in my review. They made me believe that they'd been together for thirty years and Starsky was grudgingly parting with the Torino because Hutch convinced him it was time to let go and get another car;) They were perfect, wonderful the best part of the movie.

Re: So Glad

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-04-01 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You wrote a review? Oh good, I'll have to go back and look for it. I didn't really expect other fans to like the movie, so yeah, I'm glad it wasn't just us having this much of a reaction.

They made me believe that they'd been together for thirty years and Starsky was grudgingly parting with the Torino because Hutch convinced him it was time to let go and get another car;)

I just love that image so much :)
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[personal profile] deborak 2004-03-31 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
Around our house, we call Owen Wilson "the abomination." I'm sorry that you had to see this film which I'm sure made an otherwise rocky week worse. But, like painful dental work, at least it's over . . .

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-04-01 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee. That's very appropriate. The week is getting better, at least. And Willow and I at least got to gripe with each other about the movie, so that was therapeutic :)

And of course there was chat. Chat night makes everything better.
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hugs and prezzie

[personal profile] writerlibrarian 2004-03-31 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Owen Wilson is definitely one big reason I am not going to go see that movie. Can't stand the man.

Very glad you are doing better and I have a little prezzie for you. I asked one of my bookstore owner in mid-january for a big poster he had in his book store. I kinda hinted if he got rid of it I would be willing to take it off his hands for a friend who just loooooooved sail boats. Soooooo... he came thru this week. You are the very proud owner of one big big Master and commander poster. And I mean big. Very beautiful with the two sail ships and Russel on it. I'll be sending it to you this friday. You'll have to maybe have it laminated to keep it in perfect condition.

I know it will have a nice home with you. *g*

hugs
Chantal

Re: hugs and prezzie

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-03-31 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Eeeee! Really? Oh wow, that's the coolest thing ever! Chantal, you are the best! *hugs you to bits* Thanks so much for thinking of me. You just brought a huge smile to my face, when I really needed it.

I'm gonna have to go get one of those poster frames so I can hang it on my wall :)
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Re: hugs and prezzie

[personal profile] writerlibrarian 2004-04-01 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna have to go get one of those poster frames so I can hang it on my wall :)

Yep, and after I looked it over again. It's a reversable poster. The back is like the behind of the image. First time I've ever seen something like that. I'm going to the post office tomorrow morning. *g*


Re: hugs and prezzie

[identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com 2004-04-01 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I've never seen posters like that either. How keen! Thank you, thank you, thank you!